{"id":488,"date":"2009-08-31T14:52:26","date_gmt":"2009-08-31T21:52:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/deathgleaner.wordpress.com\/?p=488"},"modified":"2021-07-08T12:33:23","modified_gmt":"2021-07-08T19:33:23","slug":"why-i-really-hate-wikipedia-administrators-part-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/g-liu.com\/blog\/2009\/08\/why-i-really-hate-wikipedia-administrators-part-ii\/","title":{"rendered":"Why I really hate Wikipedia administrators, Part II"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><em>This post is part of a three-part series on the\u00a0grievous\u00a0deficiencies\u00a0of Wikipedia administrators.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><a title=\"Why I really hate Wikipedia\u00a0administrators\" href=\"http:\/\/g-liu.com\/blog\/2009\/08\/why-i-really-hate-wikipedia-administrators\/\">Last week&#8217;s post<\/a> generated a lot of controversy. Here are some more events that have happened to me since I posted my previous post:<!--more--><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>I posted this announcement on my user pages at Wikipedia, Wikimedia Commons etc.:\n<div style=\"border: 4px dotted green;\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\"><strong>Those who read English will appreciate <a href=\"http:\/\/g-liu.com\/blog\/2009\/08\/why-i-really-hate-wikipedia-administrators\/\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Why I really hate Wikipedia administrators<\/span><\/a>, which appeared to me at a search on the keyword Wikipedia on Twitter. Some rare gems in this post. <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User:Dereckson\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">Dereckson<\/span><\/a> | ( <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/User_talk:Dereckson\"><span style=\"color: #000000;\">d<\/span><\/a>) August 27, 2009 at 07:05 (EST)<\/strong><\/span><\/div>\n<p>What happened next was that people obviously noticed, and it generated a few clicks to my blog. I also had a comment in the Wikitext code that said:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;No, either way, don&#8217;t touch. This was on the Fr.Wikipedia Bistro at Wikip\u00e9dia:Bistro and since all the content here is CC and GFDL licensed, I have the right to reproduce it here.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You have better things to do with your life than patrol Wikipedia 14 hours a day. I suggest you leave this page alone and quit stalking me.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Someone noticed this on <a href=\"https:\/\/species.wikimedia.org\/wiki\/Main_Page\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Wikispecies<\/a> and decided to delete my user page, delete my talk page, block me indefinitely; without contacting me about it. Their reason: &#8220;personal attack.&#8221; To this day, that evil administrator still hasn&#8217;t contacted me about why he blocked me indefinitely. I had to email him since I couldn&#8217;t even edit my talk page, and I still don&#8217;t understand how telling someone not to edit (touch) my user page gets me blocked indefinitely for a personal attack. As if you get thrown into jail for life for telling a police officer to &#8220;leave me alone.&#8221;<\/li>\n<li>I find out that Wikipedia&#8217;s rules are stricter than I ever imagined. The admins have created all these little inconspicuous rules so that they can frame innocent users and block them. One user said to me: I believe that there is a policy[!!!] allowing a link to copyrighted works. Who really cares? All you&#8217;re doing is linking and you can get in trouble for that? (And I quote: &#8220;Linking to copyrighted works is usually not a problem, as long as you have made a reasonable effort to determine that the page in question is not violating <em>someone else&#8217;s<\/em> copyright. If it is, please do <em>not<\/em> link to the page.&#8221;) WTF, Wikisource.<\/li>\n<li>It seems like everything on Wikipedia, etc. is a privilege. That includes editing your own user page, as if someone suddenly comes up to you and says &#8220;it&#8217;s a privilege to decorate your own house.&#8221; You and your stupid ass rules, administrators.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I also received many comments from Wikipedia, etc. administrators, all claiming that I was wrong and that I did the wrong thing. Here are some of their comments:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;There is some need for regulation, otherwise you get people replacing pages with &#8216;_____ SUCKS MY PENIS&#8217;. If you don\u2019t support some kind of structure, you\u2019re socialist. And socialists suck.&#8221; &#8211;Matt Ventura<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;About your &#8216;freedom of speech&#8217;, you\u2019re using it in your blog. Nobody avoids you to write this&#8230;But when users leave comments to your blog, you\u2019ve the right to delete spam, hateful comments or any comment you don\u2019t want.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The real freedom of speech is the right to seek, to receive and to impart information and ideas. Not to publish what you want everywhere.&#8221; &#8211;Dereckson<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;You apparently also missed that Wikipedia is a private project. Thus the notion of freedom of speech is irrelevant. You have no more right to edit Wikipedia than you have to get printed in the New York Times.&#8221; &#8211;Mathieu P.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Voting multiple times in the FP in Commons is one of the biggest sins you can commit on Commons.&#8221; &#8211;senate<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Everyone seems to be touching on the point that I cheated in the Featured Picture voting at Wikimedia Commons, and that my block was completely justified by my &#8220;big sin&#8221; that I committed.<\/p>\n<p>First of all, how is voting multiple times necessarily a <em>big<\/em> sin? Voting in Commons is done online, and all the nosy admins are watching. It&#8217;s much easier to remove a sock-puppet vote online than it is to remove one in, say, a presidential election.<\/p>\n<p>Yes, I screwed up the vote, but I still don&#8217;t believe in an indefinite block for such a vote. You can&#8217;t prove it&#8217;s a big sin. It is my belief that &#8220;little&#8221; infringements like minor vandalism can be justified by short blocks and &#8220;big&#8221; or repeated infringements can be justified by longer and\/or indefinite blocks.<\/p>\n<p>Administrators only exist for one purpose: framing, then blocking users. Then, when someone writes about them, they start throwing stupid ass arguments trying to defend themselves and promote their Nazist ways. They also love to jump to whatever conclusion is on their stubborn mind, like &#8220;No, either way, don&#8217;t touch&#8221; = personal attack = indefinite block. Administrators are crazy, rampant, mentally incompetent &#8220;leaders&#8221; that have framed hundreds if not thousands of innocent users like me. 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